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Diary
By duxup (Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 03:58:14 PM EST) (all tags)
Topics:
Lots of sports topics
A little video games
A bit about reality TV
Some misc stuff


Baseball: Yankee Stadium

I like baseball.  I like that it has no time limit, that the umpires each have different strike zones that vary on different days.  I like creaky old stadiums.  I like baseball.  I don't however give a rats ass about all the fuss over this being the last year at Yankee Stadium / All Star Game stuff.

1.  The All Star Game still stinks.  It determines home field advantage for the World Series, yet still coaches have to try to jam every player into the game like some drama teacher does for a high school play making everything akward.  So it kind of doesn't matter since nobody would actually try to jam everyone in the game if it actually mattered...  I'd rather see them just play the best players (coaches decision after the voting) and go from there.

2.  I don't think of the Yankees as all that special.  I grew up in two phases of the NY Yankees history.  They stank, or at least seemed like every other team with good and bad years when I first started watching baseball.  That was about it early on.  Then they started spending money in order to win.   Not some money, LOTS of money.  While I appreciate it was all legal in terms of the actual rules, and it is/was probably emblematic of American society in some ways...  I failed to see those more recent winning years as really all that impressive.  Heck it may be that the entire Yankee's history was financially enabled.  Maybe, I don't know.   Yet those teams I saw weren't teams who overcame any great hurdles or played on the same level field as the other teams they played with.   They SHOULD have won, heck you could argue that they SHOULD have won more games / titles.  So the team, despite its long history, for me just doesn't carry much weight in terms of recent sports achievements.  Maybe the past should matter to me but the present certainly doesn't and you can have all the history you want but if you can't do anything impressive now other than spend money, should those past achievements still reflect on the current team?

3.  Yankee Stadium does NOT look like some old stadium filled with history.  I've never been there but from what I see on TV it looks like a very modern (well mid 1980s and forward) stadium.  It might be on the same ground and so on but I don't see that as a place where Ruth hit home runs or any of the other players made great plays.  Baseball has some beautiful old stadiums that maintain their charm (and/or mold) far better than Yankee Stadium has, and without that I think it looses something.

4.  What exactly is the celebration here?  A lot of the press and nostalgia is all positive?  If say the Red Sox or Cubs chose to build a new stadium next door and plow over Fenway or Wrigley would we be so happy?  Would there be this celebration?  I imagine not.  Granted Fenway and Wrigley have had some upgrades here or there, but they still look and feel like great old ballparks.  Yankee Stadium?  I don't see it at all.  In fact (duxup prepares to duck) it looks like your standard 1980s characterless / faceless stadium.   Maybe that is why there's not much outrage over its destruction, but that also means the stadium died a long time ago and there's little to celebrate now.

Rain

We had a very rainy spring, and now a very dry fall.   I'm not fond of watering my awkwardly shaped lawn.  I'd like some rain plz thanks.  Also not this severe thunderstorm crap where it blows thru loud and lasts all of 10 min followed by these super dry windy days that wipe out whatever moisture was there.   I want some good cloudy days with some soaking calm rain a couple days in a row.

Video Games: E3

It is E3 time, and this means two things.  No more significant hardware announcements, and actual surprises.  I like this much better.  Usually the hardware (new consoles) centric years are a lot of hype, epic BS, lies, and really not a lot of good games.  These in between years I find more satisfying as someone who plays games, that might be out within my lifetime.

Noteworthy:

FFXII on 360:  Sony's exclusive hold on Final Fantasy XIII... is only exclusive in Japan.  The days of major 3rd party titles being exclusive have been long heralded as over, ending.  Square Enix (who sounds like they're not preforming financially as they'd like to (since most of what they do is pimp out old products onto the DS)) apparently figured they may as well get in on the #### it why not go multi-platform? train.

Netflix and 360:  Amongst other Xbox Live changes MS announced that if you have a 360, an Xbox Live Gold Account, and a Netflix account you can tie them together and see your Netflix queue on your 360 and play your netflix movies (that are available online of course) streaming to the 360 at no extra cost (just like on the PC now).  Very cool.  I remember hoping this would happen when Netflix was polling its users about seeing Neflix on a gaming console.  Granted Netflix's entire library isn't available online but it is growing / improving every time I check it out and it is handy.

Sony:  That's about it.  That's not to say the system is crap, but when they did the line during the presentation about "exclusives that could only be done on the PS3" you could almost hear that the line was edited the day before to just include MGS4.   I still look forward to seeing Little Big Planet, and some stuff like MAG (promising 256 player games..) sounds great but I have serious trouble believing they can pull it off without ... a mess.  Meanwhile they keep pimping Killzone 2 and while that might end up being awesome for how many E3s do we have to see stuff about a game that the first title sucked getting pimped as if it is the second coming?

Nintendo:  They've moved on to the land of the Wii, can't blame them as that thing has made them trucks of cash, and honestly I've bought some of it.  The new Wiimote adapter for 1:1 motion control seems interesting but like anything on the Wii will likely left underutilized for my taste.

Texas

My local news media tells me everyone in Texas is going to die soon.  Category 10,0000 Hurricane or something.  Sad.

Baseball: Twins

The Twins continue to play well for the most part.  Having said that they're one of those teams that is "good" but are about as far from one of the best teams in the league, as the worst teams are far from them.  In other words this is a young team with lots of potential for the future.  Even if the AL Central keeps stinking it up they've got nothing to gain from the playoffs except how to get swept.  Still a fun team to watch.  Most shocking is that it has all been in in spite of the fact that the table scrap players they picked up in the off season all suck.

Football: MN Vikings

The LA Vikings to join the LA Lakers?  It seems so.  Long story short, the Vikings have for a long time wanted a new football stadium, the Gophers, the Twins all got their stadiums and are leaving the Metrodome.  The Vikings previous owner had no intention of ever spending a dime he could spare on the team so he sold it.  The new owner had a good deal going with Anoka County and it fell thru a few years ago.   Since then the proposals by the Vikings for a new Stadium have gone from silly, to now absurd.   They want a new stadium, the NFL and Vikings owner will pay $280 million . . . the state of Minnesota is supposed to pay $600 million.

What the heck?  They don't even have a deal with say a local government (city, county) to propose how the public funds are gathered.  They just want $600 million to fall from the sky during a poor economy from the entire state...  Exactly how are you going to get folks up in the north to vote for this thing?  Answer: They won't, ever.

Those pics make it look UGLY.  I'm not opposed to new stadium deals.  I didn't mind the Twins deal.  It could have been better but the general idea was the right idea.  A county makes a deal with the team to build it, the county owns the stadium, the team pays operating costs, a pile of cash is reserved for repairs, the team pays cost overruns, the state tosses in a couple bucks for some transportation improvements (build a new light rail stop).  All the sate legislature has to do is vote yes to allow the deal (allow the new county tax) and the legislature people from the northern part of the state can say "I helped save the Twins and it didn't cost you a dime!" and it gets done.

The proposal from the Vikings is so absurd that there's no way it will ever happen.  Only one explanation remains, they (the Vikings)  know the deal will never happen.  They just make these proposals until their 2011 lease expires, go to the NFL and say "hey we tried, can we move now" and off they go.  It is too bad too because the Anoka County deal was right on the edge of being acceptable like the Twins deal, just remove the roof from that plan and it would have worked.

Reality TV

A second shift coworker of mine watches a lot of TV on the internet when at work.  He was watching recently (loudly as usual) and spouted out loud OMG what a bunch of fucking retards!  That got me thinking, that pretty much sums up the content of 99% of reality TV shows.  There should just be a show OMG what a bunch of fucking retards! sure it is crude but to the point.

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The Vikings - they've been moving since the 70s. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #1 Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 04:52:49 PM EST
Back when we moved into Minnesota there was a proposal spouted every year or two that the Vikes either get their new stadium this year or they move. It held until the dome was slapped up. Now they've been doing the same thing for at least the last five years. "NEW STADIUM OR WE MOVE!" Well, OK, go ahead. "We were just kidding. Maybe next year."

There's something about the entire Vikings organization that just says "whiney bitch," and always has. The stadium problem, such as it is, is a symptom of that more than an actual concern.

As a guy who moved from Iowa to Minnesota I heard a lot of, "Hey, you know why Iowa doesn't have a pro football team? Because then Minnesota would want one too!"

Every time I see the cycle start again I'm reminded how true that is.



Maybe by duxup (2.00 / 0) #3 Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 08:48:44 PM EST
However it is hard to imagine any of the current proposals being serious, and the lease ends in 2011, and there are places to go... and no other team/organization to team up with to build a stadium.
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Sure, they can't be serious, but. . . by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #4 Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 09:22:31 PM EST
the flip side is, if you're literally any other city in the nation that could attract a pro football team, would you REALLY be hoping the Vikings are who comes knocking? The VIKINGS?

Shit. Take over any college team, start paying them, and you'd have better luck in a year than you would getting a real season out of the Vikings. Or shit, an arena ball team, give them a month to convert to outdoor and go for it.

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You take what you can get by duxup (2.00 / 0) #5 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 09:55:23 AM EST
If a city wants an NFL franchise they have no choice to pick up the leftovers out there.  The NFL has repeatedly said they're happy with the number of teams and expansion is a ways off.

You're not going to get a team that has a long and solid history to move, those teams get stadiums... so leftovers is all you get when you pick up moving teams.
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I don't know. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:01:47 AM EST
When the Rams moved they weren't exactly Vikings level bad. I mean, sure, they weren't winning stupor bowels, but they weren't Vikings bad.

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Bad by duxup (2.00 / 0) #8 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:05:34 AM EST
The Vikings have their issues (super bowl) but they're what I would think of as "bad", they've got a history and their overall record is good, especially compared to other teams.  Bad are the Cardnals, the Browns.

I guess when you consider that nearly every NFL team gets an NFL films like production about how they're going to win the Superbowl this year, everybody but two or three teams are bad these days.
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Years of watching the Vikings proves one thing. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #9 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:08:19 AM EST
They are HORRIBLE. No, their record may not say exactly that, but they've got the ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on a level seldom seen by anyone.

Like the season where all they had to do to make the playoffs was beat the Cardinals, when the Cardinals were really, REALLY slumping. And. . .they lost that game horrifically. Season after season of that kind of performance says there is something very, VERY wrong in Viking land that nobody wants to talk about. And it's not something that a move will fix. Gutting the entire management MAY fix it, but it seems to run right to the core of the team because it's been that way since the early eighties at least.



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Fan by duxup (2.00 / 0) #10 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:57:10 AM EST
Well at least you sound like a Vikings fan with that perspective.

Management, ownership, and coaching (aside from maybe a few misc dudes) have been exchanged for new folk many times.  There's no tradition or anything in the NFL as turnover in such spots is pretty high.
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There may be no intentional tradition. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #13 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:52:06 AM EST
But there is the tradition of the Vikings being overconfident against sucky teams and surprisingly good against teams that are good. As well as the tradition of falling apart at the end of otherwise so-so to good seasons. As well as the tradition of sucking it hard.

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Oh, and one other thing. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #14 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:53:46 AM EST
I'm a Vikings follower, not a fan. Fan implies I root for them. I gave that up the second year I lived in Minnesota. That would have been right at the crack of '80.

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I still think by garlic (4.00 / 1) #12 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:21:32 AM EST
chicago should have told the bears to take a hike instead of building them their modern, less seated stadium with our funds. They could have left, sure, but another team would have come knocking as soon as they had the chance.

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Yar by duxup (2.00 / 0) #15 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:52:58 PM EST
Especially considering the Bears owners have ZERO intention of trying to win.  The family just wants to live off the income and not spend a dime if they don't have to.

I'll give the current Vikings owners props for one thing and that is unlike every owner I've seen them have in the past, they spend money on players and try to put a team together.  The Bears... not so much.
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Our offense this year. by garlic (4.00 / 1) #16 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:58:53 PM EST
we have a mediocre QB, whoever they choose. That's ok though, because our top WR will be the overplayed Devin Hestor, mostly useful for freaking the defense out so that he's double teamed. Our running offense is the injury prone Kevin Jones, the small Garrett Wolfe, and a rookie.

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Well see by duxup (2.00 / 0) #17 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 06:09:13 PM EST
Was Hestor playing WR much last year?

Running all over the place on a punt return and playing WR are such different things I don't know how useful he will be.
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his stats by garlic (4.00 / 1) #18 Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 01:37:50 AM EST
say that he was either number 3 or 4, behind bernard berrian (who we lost) and Mushin Mohammed (who we lost). It'll be tough.

Oh, also, he didn't show up to training camp yet because of contract negotiations.

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Jebus by duxup (2.00 / 0) #20 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 01:56:28 AM EST
Yeah here in MN (land of the no receivers) we picked up Berrian.  Up here if you can catch a ball kinda often, you could in fact be a receiver.  I hope he is good.

Contract negotiations?  Jebus the guy is a good return man but wtf is he holding out for?  I don't mind skipping some practices for contracts as it is part of the game, but usually guys who... i duno, have contributed more than on punt returns and kick offs are the guys who hold out.
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I really like arena ball by garlic (4.00 / 1) #11 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:19:45 AM EST
but those guys can't compete with an NFL team on an NFL field. They don't have the full suite of skills. They can throw, but they're small. They can catch, but they can't block or move fast enough for the big field. Or maybe they do have the skills, but they're 5'6", 170 lbs.

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From a few quick caculations done after by wumpus (4.00 / 1) #2 Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 06:05:26 PM EST
the deal was announced. The state of Maryland spent $90 per seat per home game for all the Raven subsidies (including a stadium). I'm not sure who the city is now who will do anything for a football team, though.

Wumpus



Calcs by duxup (2.00 / 0) #7 Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:01:52 AM EST
It's hard to figure out those calculations sometimes.  There are often tidbits in the deal that make it depend on how you look at it.

With the new Twins Stadium being built the county paid for most of it (and they own it) and the Twins paid for a a fair bit of it.   But the county and city also got to add some ticket taxes, and the excess of the tax raised to pay for the stadium that go to their own pet projects like more police and extended library hours.

So you could calc it via just the local govs contribution, at the same time they're also picking up some extra revenue and services on that.  Also the state's new transit hub from two rail lines meeting occurs near the stadium and that costs less because the stadium construction offsets a lot of costs that would have otherwise been picked up by the gov.

Too complicated!
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My wimpout by wumpus (4.00 / 1) #19 Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 05:43:18 PM EST
I just took the cost of the stadium, the cost of the kickback paid to the Brown's owner and divided by the amount of seats over a span of 20 years (probably too long for an owner not to demand and get a stadium, but long enough for interest to stretch the actual payments to infinity). I didn't wait and compute the silly thing again from the cost overruns of the actual build.

Trying to track down all the payments is impossible. PR firms literally exist to make sure nobody publishes the correct amount. The best way is to find the closest number to the true total cost, and assume that taxes will cover at least that number.

Wumpus

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I worry about the world by muchagecko (4.00 / 1) #21 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 03:03:34 AM EST
when we know more about the retards on television than our neighbors.

ARgh.

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Yup by duxup (4.00 / 1) #22 Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 03:14:14 AM EST
I was thinking about that today too.
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